Arizona’s SB 1062: Religious Freedom Restoration Act—Vetoed!

Arizona’s religion and politics dust ups are occasionally reported in the U.S. national news. Recently, the spotlight fell on our governor, Jan Brewer, when she was faced with signing the very controversial SB 1062. The bill had recently passed the state senate and its idealistically similar house version HB 2153 had passed. It was set to become law. The governor had five days to decide. She decided to veto it.

The Center for Arizona Policy (CAP) strongly supported the bill. CAP is a highly effective group of lobbyists pushing their “values” agenda through the Arizona legislature since 1995. They claim they are responsible for getting 123 bills signed into law since their inception and 60 in the last five years alone. Now they are being challenged. An opposing group the Secular Coalition for Arizona (SC4AZ) is standing up to the CAP to maintain what’s left of church/state separation here in Arizona.

The Secular Coalition for Arizona is a fairly young organization. Its mission is to represent non-theist organization operating within the state. SC4AC works directly with the legislature and is mainly a lobbying organization, like CAP. Unlike CAP, SC4AZ is correctly classified as a non-profit, 501c4 organization. That means donations made to SC4AZ are not tax deductible. Fifteen individual organizations make up the coalition. SC4AZ also works with other groups outside the coalition such as Americans United for the Separation of Church and State.

The Center for Arizona Policy has occasionally received negative news coverage. For example, a complaint was made that they were violating the IRS regulations on non-profits. Also, in 2012 an article blamed CAP, “A Homophobic Group,” for killing an anti-bullying law. After the governor vetoed SB 1062, articles appeared that exposed their incredible political power. But these minor setbacks are not doing enough to stop the evangelical Christian organization. Therefore, it’s up to us to support the Secular Coalition for Arizona and its component organizations. Let’s keep up the pressure. We must thwart CAP’s religious policy assault.

One veto shouldn’t lull us into complacency. There are plenty of other battles yet to fight. CAP is behind other potentially harmful bills. We’re concerned about HB 2481 which defines state employees able to perform marriages as ministers able to discriminate based on “deeply held religious belief.”

Perhaps, if we win a few more, we can take the battle to them and reverse some of their recent gains. There is one issue, above all others that non-theists hold in high regard—the separation of the church and state. Religious people may be treated special by their god after they die, but here on earth, in this country, in this state they should hold no special privilege to tell others what to believe or how to live their lives. If your “deeply held religious belief” says you have a right to tell me what to do…So what? My deeply held belief says, “Mind your own business!” If you don’t like gay people, don’t date them. If you don’t feel abortions are right, don’t have one. If you serve the public with your business, follow the rules of the society and treat people equally or get out of that business. Church rules apply only to church members. Seems simple enough.

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An Atheist visits a Liberal group meeting.

Last night I got the chance to address our Tucson Drinking Liberally group. The title of the talk was “Atheism and Liberalism” and was to be focused on what Atheism and Liberalism have in common. Originally, I was asked there to promote a Roy Zimmerman concert sponsored by FreeThought Arizona but found out that I would be the featured speaker at the meeting. No problem. I give prepared PowerPoint presentations to my groups every month.

The first step was to go to the meeting a week before I was scheduled to speak, which I did. It was a location that I’m familiar with but I needed to see what happens at their meetings and what I can expect by way of audio visual support. Even with all the preparation, there were the normal glitches but I got through all of them to deliver the message that Atheists and Liberals have a lot in common and we should be working together when our goals line up. I must say, however, that they were some of the most nit-picky people I’ve ever met and that is NOT a problem. I had fun answering the challenges but it made my 10 minute presentation a bit longer than planned.

Here is one of the questions I got. “What do Atheists discuss at your meetings?”

This is a very common question. “What do Atheists talk about?” and before I answer I usually point out that our regular general meeting is once a month. In comparison, Christians meet once a week and they only have the contents of one book to discuss. The answer is that we never run out of subjects. For example, we might discuss how an Atheist comes out to other family members or how to tell your grandmother that you no longer believe in God or gods. How does an Atheist handle family holidays? What experiences lead you to becoming an Atheist? There are many, many more examples. I’ve kept track of every subject covered since September 2008:

YYMM Subject of the meeting

0809 What if we’re wrong (about god)?

0810 Report on the Atheist Alliance International Convention on the Queen Mary

0811 How do you know that there is no god. Why is the evidence lacking?

0901 Holidays and family, coming out as an Atheist.

0902 Darwin and Evolution, Dr Masel’s Presentation on Evolution (at CFI meeting)

0904 Report on the American Atheist Convention, what should Atheists agree on?

0905 Atheist Activism: Guest lecturer Earl Wesley Jernigan, an anthropologist

0908 Atheism defined, Atheist or Agnostic, least trusted group in America

0909 Atheism and Skepticism, Skeptical education, logical fallacies, arguments for religion

0910 Report of AAI convention in Burbank, the roots of Halloween

0911 The Atheist Split, Paul Kurtz in the news, old guard vs “New Atheists”

0912 “Solstice Party”, no meeting

1001Holiday family experiences, plans and prediction for 2010.

1002 Are science and religion compatible?

1003 Are Atheists happier, smarter, and more moral?

1004 American Atheists Convention and Atheist Scruples

1005 This I Believe

1006 God and the Constitution

1007 Is Atheism a Religion?

1008 OK, You’re an Atheist, Now What?

1009 Militant Atheism

1010 Guest Lecturer, William Farris: “Clifford Algebra”

1011 Guest Lecturer, Mitchell: Replacing Religion

1012 Winter Solstice Party

1101 Ethics and Animals (Guest Lecturer: Jamie Massey)

1102 Building Coalitions

1103 Someone is wrong on the Internet

1104 Why is Atheism Important?

1105 How Should Atheists Handle Loss

1106 Atheist Heroes

1107 Will Atheism Replace Religion?

1108 Is Atheism Gaining Acceptance?

1109 Coming Out

1110 The Mythology of Atheism

1111 Humanism

1201 Separation of Church and State (Ben Butterfield)

1202 Sociopaths are Atheists and that doesn’t say Atheists are Sociopaths

1203 Should the government get out of the marriage business? Mitchell Timin

1204 The out of control Arizona legislature

1205 What would a religious free society look like?

1206 Ashley Paramore from Secular Student Alliance and “What’s an Atheist to do?”

1207 Atheism on the Rise in America

1208 Faith

1209 Eric Paul Lunsford guest lecturer: The Righteous Mind: How God People are Divided by Politics and Religion

1210 Mormonism

1211 Where do we go now? Activism in 2013?

1301 Does being an Atheist make you happy?

1302 Is modern science due to Judeo-Christian influence?

1303 Is religion dying in the US?

1304 Atheism: past, present, and future

1305 Are Christians being persecuted in America?

1306 Tolerance

1307 Personal Stories

1308 Feminism and Atheism

1309 Divisive Against Atheism

1310 The Benefit of Firebrand Atheism

1311 Tom Mates: Belief and Non-belief—A Look Across the Divide

1312 Winter Solstice Party!!!

1401 Things for Atheists to do in the new year

1402 Evolution and the “Ham on Nye debate”

Yes! We have plenty for like-minded unbelievers to discuss each month.

 

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An Atheist in Arizona

In this blog, I can’t speak for every Atheist in the state but I can relate my personal experiences. As Dirty Harry says, “A man’s gotta know his limitations.” It’s no secret that Arizona is sometimes screwed up politically. The state legislature is goofy and sprinting into the dark ages. Recently, Rachel Maddow took time off of her continuous coverage of the New Jersey Bridgegate scandal to talk about Arizona SB 1062. Thankfully, the governor stepped up and vetoed the bill but for a brief point in time the 48th state was the center of the national attention before returning to talking about a traffic jam.

What’s it like being here? First, understand that things are improving in Tucson and Phoenix. The Humanist Society of Greater Phoenix opened a beautiful Humanist Community Center in December 2010 (or the year 4 AGD—After the God Delusion). The Phoenix Atheists Meetup Group, just one of several Phoenix freethinking groups, has over 1800 members and is hosting 15 separate events during March alone.

Here in Tucson we have a burgeoning robust freethinking community which includes: FreeThought Arizona, Tucson Atheists, Skeptics of Tucson, the Secular Student Alliance Chapter at the University of Arizona, and the Tucson Chapter of Recovery from Religion. Every organization was either created within the past five years or has undergone an explosive growth in membership. For example, Tucson went from a couple of dozen members in 2005 to over 700 today.

But we have a long way to go.

One of my favorite sayings is, “We don’t make Atheists, we just support those who are already non-believers.” We also are a source of answers for those who are curious. Godlessness arises naturally once someone allows himself to question. We have a podcast that is currently on hiatus. I’m paying to keep it alive but we haven’t had any new episodes for a while. I hope that it returns before the year is out. Part of the name is an acronym. AIR stands for Atheists Inquiry into Reality. The key word is inquiry. If more people asked questions, would there be a lot more Atheists?

There’s a new movie that is soon to be released—Noah. It stars Russell Crowe. It’s said to be a $125M blockbuster and it will be out in theaters at the end of March 2014. It’s a bit presumptuous calling a movie a blockbuster before it is released but someone is convinced that it will be a commercial success. The story of Noah is a fantastic story in the true sense of the word, “imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality.” So many questions.

I decided to look into the story and read the part of the Bible that covered the Noah story with new eyes but then I’d be starting at Genesis 5:32. To understand the context, it is better to start at the beginning of the chapter. The story is in Genesis 5 which is about Adam’s family line but the unanswerable questions start almost immediately. Therefore, I’ll not be able to cover all of them. I would “Gish Gallop” myself into frustration so I decided to take the first three questions that should be asked. Perhaps it will spark enough interest to get others to look at the source and ask their own questions.

Let’s begin with Genesis 5:1 “When God created mankind, he made them in the likeness of God.”

Are we to assume that this verse says humans look a bit like God? If God created mankind to look like him, wouldn’t we be invisible? Just saying! Let’s make a note to get back to this later. At this rate, we’ll never get to the start of the Noah story.

To continue: Genesis 5:2-5 “He created them male and female and blessed them. And he named them ‘Mankind’ when they were created. When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son in his own likeness, in his own image: and he named him Seth. After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years, and then he died.”

I’m at 700 words already and nowhere near the start of Noah’s story so it doesn’t look like I’m going to get to it. These four verses are so chock full of wrongness it’s going to be tough to go much further. When Adam had lived 130 years, he had a son? You have to go back into the previous chapter to realize that Seth was a blessing given to Adam to replace Abel but I don’t want to bury the lead here. Adam had a son when he was 130 years old? Perhaps that may be possible. After all, the demands on men for producing offspring are not very daunting. Let’s forget for a moment that Viagra hasn’t been invented and he’s 130 years old…The bigger question is how Eve could handle having a baby at such an advanced age. As I recall, Adam and Eve were either born created on the same day or at best a few days apart, depending on which chapter of Genesis you prefer. Therefore, she was also a bit old to be having kids…

By now, I think you get the point and this has run on for too long already. Unfortunately, I didn’t get anywhere near to the Noah story…

Please read your Bible again and this time read it critically. The world could use a few more Atheists!

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Keith Lowell Jensen’s Godless Comedy Tour

March 2, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Atheist Comedy Night at Laffs Comedy Caffé

2900 E Broadway TucsonImage

Keith Lowell Jensen and Johnny Taylor will be here to entertain the heathens of
the Tucson area at our only standup comedy venue. These people are funny and
they’re coming here just for us. Tickets are available at the door. $15 along with a
couple of items from the kitchen or bar makes for an affordable night of comedy.
This event is sponsored by FreeThought Arizona and the freethinkers of the Tucson
area. Let’s get together and make this a success.
Keith Lowell Jensen is a freethinking, atheist comedian who has performed at The
American Atheists 50th Anniversary Convention in Austin, TX, Reasonfest in
Lawrence, KS, and Skepticon in Springfield, MO as well as at clubs around the
country.
He has three albums out including his latest Elf Orgy, out on Stand Up! Records.
Jensen has appeared on Spike TV, The History Channel, and the Starz network. He
founded The Coexist Comedy Tour and stars in the film of the same name, currently
running on Starz and playing at select theaters. Jensen’s hour long comedy special
Cats Made of Rabbits is available through Video On Demand starting May 20th,
2013.
Sacramento’s Johnny Taylor uses sharp wit, and off-beat sensibilities to
communicate his sometimes tragic life experiences in a hilarious way.
A dynamic performer, Johnny has established a reputation for displaying a wide
range of comedic styles.
He has opened for some of the biggest names in stand-up comedy, including Robin
Williams, Bobcat Goldthwait, Brian Posehn, Wayne Federman, and more.
Johnny is a regular at every major comedy club in Northern California, including the
San Francisco Punch Line, Sacramento Punch Line, Cobb’s Comedy Club, and 142
Throckmorton Theater, and was recently featured on Comedytime.TV.

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A believer visits an Atheist meeting

Last July, we had a believer attend one of our Tucson Atheists meetings. He was curious and wanted to witness what Atheists actually do at their meetings. Afterwards, he had some questions:

1. Do AtHandshakeheist’s still hold Morals/Values that are acceptable to their community? Everyone at the meeting seemed very nice/respective of each other, but have you or do you encounter Atheists that because of a lack of religion, feel the need to behave in any type of immoral behavior?

I’m glad your experience so far has been a positive one. Atheists are people that live in society just like anyone else. There is no evidence that Atheists are less moral than Christians. Divorce rates for Atheists are among the lowest in America and Atheists make up only 0.2% of the prison population. We say “Atheists are good for nothing” which means that Atheists do good things because they are right and proper and not because they expect to be rewarded or punished after death.

2. How do members participate? Gender roles among the group? Are there any specific rituals that may be performed among Atheist’s to involve any type of rites of passage? What are the main ideologies regarding the genders among Atheists?

We have no baptism. However, there are few of us that have been “un-baptized.” We also have no confirmation. There are not any “Catechism” schools for Atheists. Genders do not have separate roles. The creator of American Atheists was a woman and her successor, Ellen Johnson, led the organization for 13 year. There are no rites of passage. There are no “altar calls.” In our meetings, we have no rituals, not even the Pledge of Allegiance.

3. What do Atheist’s feel happens after life/death? Do they fear dying? One of the explanations that I have realized most religions even exist is the undeniable need for people to have an answer for life after death. How do most Atheists feel regarding any type of after life?

When we die, we die. There is no life after death. It’s an amazing thing but most Atheists I know do not fear death even though this is the only life we’ll ever know. There is a famous quote by Banksy, “I mean, they say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time.” Banksy is a famous graffiti artist, political activist, film director, and painter. If we are to live on, we’ll do so in the memories of others.
The following questions relate to a specific religious ritual event, if there is nothing specifically ritualistic among Atheists, I will use our meeting on Monday to answer the following questions.

4. Is there a particular religious official?

 During the meeting that you attended, you saw me as the leader. I am, in fact, the organizer of the group and the Monday night meeting that you attended is MY meeting. However, we have a variety of events and while I attend them, I’m in no way “in charge.” Philip MacDuff is in charge of “Drinking Godlessly”, Nancy is in charge of “Caffeinated Godlessness” and she is also in charge of the “Body Love” group. Wade has his own meeting on the first Sunday of the month. Each event has its own leader. Each leader is not a religious official, just the person that is responsible for the event.

5. Who is in charge?

 As the person that maintains the Meetup.com site, I’m in charge of the group. My title is organizer. I’m not “in charge” of the individual meetings, as discussed. I pay the bills and put on one meeting a month. The rest of the meetings are done by other people.

6. If there is someone “in charge” of the event, how is this manifested?

 For the meeting that I AM in charge of, I am the presenter and the moderator of the discussion.

7. Does this person act or dress differently from the rest of the people at the event?

 The person in charge of every event of the Tucson Atheists is not required to wear special attire. I MAY where a T shirt that identifies me as an open Atheists but it is not required and not separate and distinct from the normal attendees.

8. What is the flow of the event?

The event that you attended was a bit different from the normal meeting flow. We do have an agenda however and each meeting includes at least have of the time in open (but moderated) discussion.

9. Do people participate individually or en-masse?

People have their own ideas and participate as individuals. There are no ritualistic prayers, songs, or rote responses.

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Hello world! From an Atheist in Arizona, where the weather is nice and the politics aren’t.

140217 Jedfest 2014

Introduction: I’m in Arizona and I’m an Atheist. That explains the name.

I’ve been blogging for a little over a year. The host I was using went “Tango Uniform” and now I’m on my own.

Sometime in 2005, I decided that I was ready to retire from work but I needed something on which to focus. It was obvious that I had advanced as much as I could at work. I  retired from the United States Air Force on the first day of 2000. I began work for Raytheon in the middle of January in 2000. Great job, good pay and very rewarding but stressful. The stress while working a program was acceptable. However, the stress of being between programs was not pleasant at all. I was getting paid a fortune– too much–and I felt guilty about it especially when between programs.

Enough of that. I really don’t have to justify why I decided to stop working. I collect earned retirement pay from the Air Force, I have rental property, and enough saved up to allow me the opportunity to retire while I’m still healthy. Work didn’t define me. I define me. Now, I define myself as a person who has dedicated his life to promote reason and rationality.

How?

I’m the Arizona State Director for American Atheists. I organize a couple of local meetup.com groups–Tucson Atheists and Skeptics of Tucson. I’m on the board of directors of the local Secular Humanist group–FreeThought Arizona and now, once again, a blogger.

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